I reckon those feelings are true for many of us.

You can usually find shows on the internet about a day after the air in the US.... Here's a tip. use the bing search engine instead of google. It seems to be a lot less restrictive in the results it shows compared to google.

Indeed MacsJeep! I really hope they come back with some genuine MacGyverisms !!

Nope. Still not sold on this.

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You know, this got me thinking again (what's new, ahem).

They changed so much since the Unaired Pilot (as far as we know, for the better).

Yet there's still so many parallels:
- a kinda funny-weirdo Ex-CIA guy (conspiracy nut Lincoln vs. Jack Dalton)
- an asian woman being the boss of MacGyver (Michelle Drusiec vs Sandrine Holt)
- a long-and-dark-haired computer hacker (Addison Timlin vs Tristin Mays)
- a black guy being MacGyver's best friend (Character named Gunnar vs Wilt Bozer)
- a poster showing Mac escaping explosions via parachute.

So. They DID write a new script and reshoot the pilot, right? Sometimes I wonder *lol*

Thanks for the tipp! I never use Bing; I hate the design so much *lol*

I'm in the lucky position that downloading/streaming movies or music is not illegal in Switzerland (only uploading/sharing/selling is). So if someone out there is kind enough to upload it, I might even get to see it legally sometime this year...

It usually takes up to 2 years until TV shows are shown on free German TV. I'm kinda surprised they will already air Justin Hires' "Rush Hour" this September; that means we're only half a season behind the US.

His facial expression really bugs me in that photo. He looks too smug, like he's thinking, "Yeah, that's right, I'm cool... I got this under control." To me, that's not the right attitude for MacGyver.

Totally agree with you Miasma, however if you look at any picture of Lucas smiling he seems to always look very smug and smirky. I think it's just because he smiles with his mouth closed instead of open which looks like a smirk.

If he showed some teeth when he smiled like the rest of us, he'd be fine.

I think it's something to do with the shape of his chin, too. He kind of has a Jay Leno chin. Combining that with the closed-mouth smile tends to make him look smug (and this is why I never want to be famous... I don't want a bunch of nobodies on the internet analyzing and critiquing every little detail about my face! haha. Sorry Lucas!)

But even ignoring his facial expression, there's just something a bit cheesy about that poster. It comes across a bit like a bad young-adult novel/movie poster. Like those bad posters for the Divergent movies.

Well, as you've pointed out before, it wouldn't be true to the original if there wasn't a certain amount of cheese involved.

Yes cheese big time!

Well, as you've pointed out before, it wouldn't be true to the original if there wasn't a certain amount of cheese involved.

You got me there!

Also, to be fair, I guess there's nothing wrong with it looking "young adult" since I assume it's aimed at a young audience, like the original series was. I'm just greedy-- now that I'M an adult, I want everything to be aimed at adults!

Me too my friend, me too!!

It is pretty cheesy - but to be honest, it's not so different from other modern movie/tv posters that look photoshopped to the hilt. It doesn't bug me too much. They usually don't tell much about the story anyway... and are often made by someone who's not involved in the actual making of the movie/show.

It's just... this looks like a smug MacGyver that loves being the action-hero guy jumping out of a plane. They already said that NewMacGvyer would still be afraid of heights, and it was always part of Old MacGyver's charm that he's a reluctant hero, not looking for action on purpose and smiling after getting out of trouble...

They apparently did another photo shoot before the TCAs...

(via some NewMacGyver Fan Account on Twitter)

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That pretty much sums me up too. But given I hated the idea outright originally they've definitely swayed me

Getting to see it will be our challenge

I've felt the same way. I know how it feels to get hyped up about something only to be sorely disappointed. Since MacGyver means so much to so many of us, that disappointment would be even greater. Keeping a balanced viewpoint on the reboot has certainly been challenging, that's for sure.

In any case... if the reboot ends up being a total flop, we'll probably need a "recovery from the disappointment" thread. lol

Oh, I'm sure even if it isn't a total disappointment there will be lots of ranting and bitching and comparing in all the threads with a little bit of complimenting or praising (if they get something right). I'm already looking forward to that

First Look Trailer (region-free): https://twitter.com/CBSTVStudios/status/764144780272029696

As soon as I find a way to embed a region-free YT-Version, I'll post it in here, too.

Whoa. That's a BIG Billboard!

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New Office?

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The publicity must be working, as even my non-Mac friends are asking me about the new show. We'll see!

Hmm. At the moment, I'm not loving the new trailer. Maybe it's the music, but somehow, the attitude /tone of the show just seems wrong to me. We'll see, though. Hopefully it's just the way the trailer was edited.

They sure got a decent advertizing budget

Or is it always like this in the US with new TV shows? They REALLY believe in the concept of the Reboot and want it to succeed...

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I kind of get what you mean. It seems like it's trying to be hip and slick like the Abrams Star Trek movies. But it's not just the attitude, it's Mac asking if Jack has his back followed by Mac being confronted by several armed terrorists who are quickly picked off by Jack and a sniper rifle. That's way too dark for MacGyver and I don't think MacGyver would approve of his life being saved in such a manner. Yeah, MacGyver is a spy again and sometimes spies have to get their hands dirty, but I see MacGyver as the type who tries to do the job without guns or killing if at all possible. It's not so much that he disapproves of other agents using guns, it's that I don't think MacGyver would ask for help that involves lethal force.

I kind of get what you mean. It seems like it's trying to be hip and slick like the Abrams Star Trek movies. But it's not just the attitude, it's Mac asking if Jack has his back followed by Mac being confronted by several armed terrorists who are quickly picked off by Jack and a sniper rifle. That's way too dark for MacGyver and I don't think MacGyver would approve of his life being saved in such a manner. Yeah, MacGyver is a spy again and sometimes spies have to get their hands dirty, but I see MacGyver as the type who tries to do the job without guns or killing if at all possible. It's not so much that he disapproves of other agents using guns, it's that I don't think MacGyver would ask for help that involves lethal force.

I'm hoping that's just some misleading editing in the trailer, and not actually how it plays out in the show. Kind of like how the trailer makes it look as if Mac says he'll stop a plane with tin foil, even though if you actually look at where he is when he says that, it's clearly a completely different scene.

Your point about the Abrams Star Trek makes me think of another related example: Remember the first trailer for Star Trek Beyond? It had a Beastie Boys soundtrack, the fans HATED it. Simon Pegg actually had to come out and say that it did NOT represent the movie itself. So maybe that's what's happening here, too.

Do any of you guys feel like the old trailer and pilot may or could have been the better direction, if only the attitude was less smug and more RDA MacGyver, with George Eads as Pete, and if only people didn't bash the hair or if Lucas had trimmed his hair from the start? I can't help but wonder how much better the old trailer and pilot could have been if those elements were present from the start. Oh, and if instead of that black jacket he used in the old trailer he could have used the classic brown one. I know it's too early to judge from the new trailer itself but, really it has raised my curiosity.

I've been thinking about that, too.

Aside from Mac looking more like Mac, I'm not really sure that this new trailer is an improvement. The previous trailer didn't play up the team aspect quite so much. The other characters felt more like side characters, while MacGyver was clearly the star, so that was better in the old trailer. Plus we actually saw him do more MacGyverisms in the old trailer, with the finger prints, the bow & arrow, the hose as a trip wire, the parachute, etc.
The soundtrack in both trailers irritates me. Both songs are way too cocky for MacGyver. I know Mac was a bit cockier in Season 1, and I think this show is going for that, but even so, the soundtracks they chose for the trailers don't feel right to me.
Speaking of cockiness, I think he got cockier in this trailer than he was in the previous one (although, oddly, the fact that his hair isn't annoying now somehow makes his cockiness a bit less annoying. I know that makes no sense.)

I don't really see him as Pete. I think maybe just leaving him as a new guy named Lincoln might have been fine, though, since he's clearly not Jack Dalton.

To be honest, the whole thing feels like they just missed the point of MacGyver.

Even if they go with a younger one, he just feels too smug, to confident.
Mac was always trying to de-escalte things, not the opposite. Seeing him grinning widely into enemies faces, even after they have been hurt just feels off.
Sure there is a boyish charm to it, but I can't shake the feeling that the original would have another reaction.

I have a fear that I would rather punch him the face, than compliment him, because the plot put him in a contrived situation.

Of course this is just a trailer and we know they can be misleading. I just hope they don't go witht the rapid style action that has been shown to us.
If any, they should aproach it more like Netflix did with Daredevil (minus the hardcore violence) and try to opt for a realistic aproach.
More "ouch that hurt" than "looks cool on screen".

Then we have the whole team aspect, which just feels wrong for me. Macgyver was rarely about "the team", but mostly about helping individuals, friends and family.
I've written it at the first promo piece somehwere else. Have him build up his reputation on a private level (Mac was in the army, studied, etc...) and then have it upgraded to a "team", I don't get why this is put front and center.

However, I will give it a try.
Not everything looks bad and I like some things I have seen.
While the first promo had some of the tone right and the new trailer just threw it all away, I still see some Macgyver in there.
I just hope, they can find the right balance for him and the show.

Welcome to the forums Jaken.

You've made some valid points. I guess we have to expect some changes because this is a reboot instead of a continuation - much to my dismay

But non-the-less your points are valid concerns which I think will hinder a lot of fans enjoyment.



Did anyone else notice the Wooooohhhhhhooooo" as he was hanging under the plane?

I really hope that's not in the scene and is just nonsense editing for the trailer!!

That's actually what bothers me the most in the new trailer. It goes along with the poster; MacGyver having fun and therefore smiling doing some stupid-dangerous act voluntarily to (maybe) save the world. (Maybe he just wanted to do it for fun and not out of necessity, or so it seems?)

The trailer looks more or less fine on the surface, but there are many little things that go against the heart of the original. Most of them I didn't notice when I watched the trailer at first. But it's these little things (for non-fans probably trivial nit-picky things) that make me see clearer now why RDA declined the offer from CBS.

In the interest of giving this show the benefit of the doubt, a thought just occurred to me: TV shows these days usually have more character development and evolution than shows in the 80s did. So, what if Mac starts out as a very smug, cocky guy in this series, but then something happens that changes his attitude? Lenkov did mention that Mac gets betrayed in season 1, and that it's a defining moment for him. Maybe that's the point when he becomes a bit less smug, and stops seeing everything as just a good time, and adopts a humbler attitude? I'm pretty sure all the clips we're seeing are from the first episode, so it could all be before the betrayal.
IF that's the approach they're taking, then I'm on board with that. One thing that seems a bit silly about the original series, in retrospect, is how Mac's attitude never really changes, despite how many times his friends die, he gets betrayed, etc. Of course, back then, that's how tv shows were. But today, characters tend to change based on their experiences.