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Posted: 15 August 2016 - 03:19 AM                                    
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QUOTE (KiwiTek @ 14 August 2016 - 03:48 AM)
Welcome to the forums Jaken.

Did anyone else notice the Wooooohhhhhhooooo" as he was hanging under the plane?

I really hope that's not in the scene and is just nonsense editing for the trailer!! dry.gif

Thanks for the welcome.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind the "Woohoo" in that situation.
However not in the way the trailer is showing it.

Like he jumps on, the plane goes up, he thinks he enjoys it, but then it becomes scary and the mood changes.

Initial hype, turning towards realization of how dangerous the situation is, causing him get back into serious mode.

He is a young Mac, so some childish reactions should still be there.
Question is just, how they balance it out with the others.



 
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LMAO! what is this? laugh.gif
(well, the first clip is kinda funny. I think.)

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Why do they feel the need to mix hip hop with Mac? Just an adventurous theme would do. Also, it still bugs me a bit about the whole Team Mac idea. Imagine this trailer with him doing everything on his own. That would have been phenomenal.

In all honesty it is a vast improvement over the last trailer, granted. But..I'm just...not....feeling...it. biggrin.gif



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QUOTE (DashboardOnFire @ 15 August 2016 - 01:54 PM)
LMAO! what is this? laugh.gif
(well, the first clip is kinda funny. I think.)

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I looked at the long trailer again and was about to say... hey he doesn't look too smug here actually and then these promos come along...
Of course it is marketing and making some fun of the established franchise is a tried and true method, but... this isn't about something established.

This is a reboot, which is basicly trying to put a new spin on the established franchise by bringing it into modern times, so it is actually something new.
If they want to come off as something that actually honors the original they need to dial it back a bit.

We don't know this Mac. The regular audience doesn't know this Mac.
Do they really want to go with the smug, I know better than you kind of protagonist?
More so, if they really are able to restrain themselves in the actual show, like the new trailer suggests?

Otherwise the long trailer was actually fine. I don't really like the james bond rip off, the team focus on "improvise" and the fact that the fight szene had a lot of uneccessary moves that the oiginal would (never?) do (Kicking a plate from the desk, into his hand to block bullets... Too dangerous as you could easily fail that and that thing would never stop bullets).

However, this is TVland and suspension of disbelief might get me through the first season, if they get enough things right.



 
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Posted: 16 August 2016 - 05:36 PM                                    
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Yeah the smug (almost arrogant) attitude showing through in these promos is starting to worry me a little.

One of the core things about MacGyver is that he's humble. He never assumes he knows more or better than someone else and he was never 100% sure if his MacGyverisms would work. He tried them because he needed to not because he knew it was going to beat the bad guys. It was always a "we have to try something to get out of this". Not a "Don't worry guys I'm MacGyver I can fix this." which is basically what these promos are heading towards.



You'd think with all the hassle they already have from fans about this, they'd be a LOT more careful about getting this right.... unless of coarse they think this is right. unsure.gif




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I may be remembering this wrong, but I think the beginning of Legend Of The Holy Rose had a key moment that clearly shows how different RDA's Mac was from how this new Mac is being promoted. After he made the ultralight and it actually worked, the guy he was rescuing said something like, "It works!" and Mac replied, "Of course!" but as he said it, he looked terrified and you could tell he was thinking, "Holy s--t, I can't believe this worked!" That's the sort of thing that made him someone we could relate to, even when he was doing extreme stuff. I picture that same scene in this new show, and I could see Lucas' Mac saying, "Of course!" with a smug "I knew it would work" smile on his face. And instead of looking terrified, he'd probably be screaming "Woohoo!!" like he's having a great time on a roller coaster.

I really hope these ads are giving us the wrong impression. It's not that Lucas' needs to copy everything RDA did (that would actually be a mistake, I think), but the character needs to be someone we can relate to, and that usually comes from him having some level of insecurity, doubts or weaknesses. If he's constantly has an attitude of "I got this!", I'm not going to care about him at all.



 
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QUOTE (KiwiTek @ 16 August 2016 - 05:36 PM)
Yeah the smug (almost arrogant) attitude showing through in these promos is starting to worry me a little.

One of the core things about MacGyver is that he's humble. He never assumes he knows more or better than someone else and he was never 100% sure if his MacGyverisms would work. He tried them because he needed to not because he knew it was going to beat the bad guys. It was always a "we have to try something to get out of this". Not a "Don't worry guys I'm MacGyver I can fix this." which is basically what these promos are heading towards.



You'd think with all the hassle they already have from fans about this, they'd be a LOT more careful about getting this right.... unless of coarse they think this is right. unsure.gif

I agree, from what I've seen Mac and (the new) Jack seem cocky, and too sure of themselves. "Plan B, Let's improvise!" and the music al lend to a team that can do no wrong and they KNOW it will all work out on the end. That's not the feeling I got from TOS. I like the humble nature of Macgyver, it made him more real in a way than if he knew whatever he whipped up was going to work.

I am hopeful that the approach, if it is going to be a more self-assured/arrogant Mac, that it is a set up for something really major to go wrong, and teaches him to become the Mac we all know and love. It better come quick though because I won't be able to stomach "Team Macgyver Super Hero Power Force" for more than an episode.



 
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Ok I admit I am slightly worried

The first trailer I thought was great it's showed Macgyver working on his own sure he was slightly cocky and slightly arrogant but he was young this is Macgyver Begins. But the second trailer has Mac established but more in a team and with the same slight arrogance. Like I said my issue isn't with Till who I genuinely believe could be an amazing Macgyver the writers on the other hand....

Like I said most of the changes I am either fine with or don't view as changes (joke all you want the original Macgyver was able to hold his own for a few minutes against a trained assassin so him being a good fighter now is perfectly reasonable)

I don't like that he doesn't hate his first name, guns, and based on the trailer doesn't have a fear of heights as those quirks I feel are important more so then the length of his hair...

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QUOTE (Macgyver12186 @ 17 August 2016 - 03:17 AM)
I don't like that he doesn't hate his first name, guns, and based on the trailer doesn't have a fear of heights as those quirks I feel are important more so then the length of his hair...


According to some interviews, he still does have a fear of heights.

Where did you hear that he doesn't hate his first name? I haven't seen that mentioned. (though, to be honest, I wouldn't really care much one way or another. That was kind of a joke in the original series, but it wasn't essential to who he was.)




 
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I saw the trailer, and I should say this is not the MacGyver I grew up watching on TV. He has none of the qualities that RDA had, furthermore to say how arrogant and egotistical he appears in the trailers... Now that is what totally puts me off regarding this reboot. mad.gif



 
                                                                     
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QUOTE (Macgyver1985 @ 16 August 2016 - 10:12 AM)
I saw the trailer, and I should say this is not the MacGyver I grew up watching on TV.


Some time ago there were comments on the web that people would like this reboot if it was about a son or grandson of Macgyver. I didn't like that idea at first but now I'm starting to change my mind . Probably I wouldn't have so much expectation about it, only curiosity how they will show the personality of Mac's son/grandson.



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QUOTE (MacDobromir @ 16 August 2016 - 08:53 PM)
QUOTE (Macgyver1985 @ 16 August 2016 - 10:12 AM)
I saw the trailer, and I should say this is not the MacGyver I grew up watching on TV.


Some time ago there were comments on the web that people would like this reboot if it was about son or grandson of Macgyver. I didn't like that idea at first but now I'm starting to change my mind . Probably I wouldn't have so much expectation about it, only curiosity how they will show personality of Mac's son/grandson.

The only problem is that CBS did not include a grandson or son in the original series, so to suddenly announce that a relative of MacGyver will be featured in the reboot, will sound ridiculous. To my knowledge, MacGyver was the only child and never married, if this is true, how would a grandson/son fit into the storyline? hmm.bmp



 
                                                                     
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QUOTE (Macgyver1985 @ 17 August 2016 - 07:18 AM)
QUOTE (MacDobromir @ 16 August 2016 - 08:53 PM)
QUOTE (Macgyver1985 @ 16 August 2016 - 10:12 AM)
I saw the trailer, and I should say this is not the MacGyver I grew up watching on TV.


Some time ago there were comments on the web that people would like this reboot if it was about son or grandson of Macgyver. I didn't like that idea at first but now I'm starting to change my mind . Probably I wouldn't have so much expectation about it, only curiosity how they will show personality of Mac's son/grandson.

The only problem is that CBS did not include a grandson or son in the original series, so to suddenly announce that a relative of Mac will be featured in the reboot, will sound ridiculous. To my knowledge, MacGyver was the only child and never married, if this is true, how would a grandson/son fit into the storyline? hmm.bmp

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As we all wink.gif No worries! biggrin.gif

btw: "age is a matter of mind " isn't from MacGyver? doh.gif



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QUOTE (Macgyver1985 @ 16 August 2016 - 09:18 PM)
To my knowledge, MacGyver was the only child and never married, if this is true, how would a grandson/son fit into the storyline? hmm.bmp

I'm sure you can have kids without being married, also laugh.gif



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That new Mac looks little bit smug and the attitude in those trailers too, so sometimes lately it’s been started to feel like the reboot makers would think that being a humble action hero is “outdated”, because it looks like it’s very hard to make that character humble or then they missed that from the original show headbutt.gif

They wanted character-driven story style and also to bring that original spirit back, so please give us that little humble characteristic then, for the trailers too, because those should make the first impression tongue.gif

Well, about a month for the pilot to see are those holes filled hmm.bmp



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My thought is this... the reboot is most likely based off Season 1 MacGyver. Season 1 MacGyver was very confident in his abilities, and had a bit of a... swagger? XD It was more of a cool confidence, or friendly confidence. He has a very casual attitude, like walking around with his hands in his pockets... like he's taking his time and taking in all his surroundings.

This new Mac seems to be something of the same, but won't know for sure until I see the pilot. I dunno, I thought the short with him in the chair was kinda cute. It's getting around though, I had someone comment on the trailer today at work... they said "this isn't MacGyver, but I'll watch it anyway". lol

I made my sister watch the trailer, and she said you can't really judge the whole show on a 30sec trailer. She seems pretty interested in the reboot now.

That being said, the trailer is making waves and it's getting people interested in it.



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I just watched the trailer again, and the whole "team" thing still irks me. But you know what I realized irritates me the most is the music behind it. It doesn't fit "MacGyver" at all. It will be interesting to see what they do for a theme song after that...

I'm still on the fence about everything else until I watch. Seeing is believing. Mac wouldn't judge something without knowing the whole story, so we shouldn't either, I guess.



 
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QUOTE (MacsJeep @ 18 August 2016 - 06:24 AM)
I just watched the trailer again, and the whole "team" thing still irks me. But you know what I realized irritates me the most is the music behind it. It doesn't fit "MacGyver" at all. It will be interesting to see what they do for a theme song after that...

I'm still on the fence about everything else until I watch. Seeing is believing. Mac wouldn't judge something without knowing the whole story, so we shouldn't either, I guess.

You are not alone. I wanted to stick a sharp pencil in my ear to get the tune out of my head. Doesn't match Macgyver at all, sounds very low-rent to me.



 
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Me too MacsJeep... believe me, I completely understand where you're coming from.

Once the pilot comes out, I've had this idea floating around in my head about writing a fanfic when the characters collide with each other from both version. I'm hoping the result will be hilarious. I mean... can you imagine the original Mac, Jack and Pete meeting Patricia? Or the new group meeting Penny Parker? XD

Could be pretty dang funny if I can get it to work. lol



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I don't think the songs in the promos will actually be used in the show, and I think maybe people are jumping to conclusions about this new MacGyver being arrogant and unlikable. Just a few smirks and one little celebratory one-liner after pulling off a MacGyverism and all the sudden he's a conceited jerk?



 
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QUOTE (Widowmaker @ 18 August 2016 - 07:30 AM)
I don't think the songs in the promos will actually be used in the show, and I think maybe people are jumping to conclusions about this new MacGyver being arrogant and unlikable. Just a few smirks and one little celebratory one-liner after pulling off a MacGyverism and all the sudden he's a conceited jerk?

I hope the new songs are not going to be used! Still, this is the first meeting of the new Mac, the promos are used to hook you, reel you in so you will watch. Right now I have an uneasy feeling. I'm hopeful the character of Mac will be true but so far the math points to something different.



 
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QUOTE (Widowmaker @ 17 August 2016 - 02:30 PM)
I don't think the songs in the promos will actually be used in the show, and I think maybe people are jumping to conclusions about this new MacGyver being arrogant and unlikable. Just a few smirks and one little celebratory one-liner after pulling off a MacGyverism and all the sudden he's a conceited jerk?

Well, we have to balanced. We're mostly rehashing the same statement over and over again.

We won't know until we've seen the pilot. We have our concerns, and that's okay. This is one of our most beloved characters. We just want to see our hero brought back into the light properly.

I understand perfectly they have to promote the show in some fashion, and we may not like it. Hell, we're probably not going to like every little thing we see in the pilot.

But, to be honest, there are things about the original many of us didn't like either.

Balance is everything. Let's not be too gung-ho, but at the same time, let's not be quick to doom it either. That, and this is the internet... it's very easy to misconstrue things.



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